rumors & reports May 2000

These are rumors and reports about C&C players. The purpose for this page is that You all have a public forum and that no bad (or good) behaviour remains secret.

I don't forward Your reports to Ted. I suggest You mail Ted Yourself because it's more authentic. But I inform Ted about players who do bad things to me.

If You want to contribute to this page:

I won't publish any reports regarding games with any treaties. Only "no rules" games are of interest for me.


[31 May 2000]
Tripleh13, Popnfres8, Max331 and compuwork dced Mrnoddie

From: MrOPlNlON@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 02:36:54 EDT
Subject: Disconnectors

Game between: Mrnoddie and Tripleh13 @ 5pm on 5/28 he dced me

Game between: Mrnoddie and Popnfres8 @ Midnight 5/28 he lost but hid a stealth something(crates) on me and dced

Game Between: Mrnoddie and Max331 @ 1:30 am 5/29 he dced me when I saw his apc with engineers coming. When I saw his apc I started turning out hummers as fast as I could, and my apc was about to enter his outer perimeter to his base, he had no base defnses so it would have been an easy kill, my base was surounded my about 30 grenaders, so he wouldnt have done mutch, even if he did get something, I would have knocked it out. at this point I had three tib factories, weapons plant, and one barracks. He had two refineries one barrack, and on weapons plant.

Game between Mrnoddie and compuwork @4:15 am May 30 While I am on the subject how is it possible for me to lose over twenty flamers against one of his flamers and my flamers wont fire upwards at his one flamer? one of his flamers that did do this my harvestor finally ran the guy over(unentionally I might add) and this happened more then once in the game, then he start kicking my ass when I knock out his contruction yard and boom, connection lost, he was winning with about 6 hands of nod to my 6 but mine was dropping because my men were getting butchered by his superman flamers, but I dont understand how one flamer can kick twenty of my flamers ass's, and mine wont fire at his? and this wasn't my guys dying all at one time in a large group this was in groups of two at a time, is there a cheat code to make a single man invincible or something? cause this happened more then once during the game, how can I fight against one man at the cost twenty of mine, I finally did figurte how to kill them, you he was on the top, I was on the bottom, my units wont fire up at his(the superman ones) so I snuck a few around and flamed him from the top, its all I could do, but I still got the loss, but that is bullshit to lose twenty to one, how can someone hope to beat a person with those odds?

MacMark: It sometimes happen that some units don't fire although they're in range to return fire. Usually it helps if You move them a litle bit to anthor place.


[25 May 2000]
ogieboy dced MacMark

Yesterday I played ogieboy on One Pass Fits All, GDI versus NOD, 3 start units. After I got his firstPower Plants with my Orcas (mixed with Grenadiers to kill his later built Rocket soldiers) he dced me. I had 2 Refineries, 3 Power Plants, 2 Barracks, 3 Orcas and the Construction Yard. What he has had You can see on this screen shot.


[25 May 2000]
jet49625 outsynced MacMark

I played jet49625 on Eye Of The Storm, 3 start units. Right in the beginning he outsynced under 3 minutes lke shown on this screen shot.


[24 May 2000]
cory3456 dced ENFmorph

From: Maverickg123@aol.com
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 20:44:35 EDT
Subject: cory3456

hi macmark i ENFmorph just played cory3456 on his setts units 12 tech 7 and credits 9999 he asked for rules of ht and bt for 15 mins he then proceeded to break those rules and killed me i came back on another name and played him again this time knowing what to expect and WHOOSH the helis came but BANG they all died hehehehehe then i killed his base and he said i broke bt amnd he is a WW sysop and he`ll get me banned etc etc LOL HAHAHA i thought you might find that one funny! then i said ok mr sysop may i have the pleasure of youre name he said he was going to disqaulify me now thats when i knew he werent a sysop and then he said i can still win and dced me! LOL any way mac c ya later ENFmorph


[23 May 2000]
Siro1 skeyed Kan3

Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 01:41:15 -0700
From: Keith Bennett <Bennett@macol.net>
Reply-To: Bennett@macol.net

my nickname was Kan3
theirs was Siro1

rules:
No cheating, No hacking, no rushing, and NO S H I T!!!

settings:
units: 6
credits: 9999
tech: 7
tiberium: on
crates: on
bases: on
AI: off
map: tiberium garden
their side: Nod
my side: GDI

i started in bottom right. i sent a humm-vee to top right and deployed mcv.

built powerplant, and started refiunery. sent the hummvee to top middle because he wasnt at top right

built a barracks, started engineer, started another refinery, and heard "unit lost", scrolled up to top middle, saw his cy, 3 refineries, and a hand.

sent the apc i sarted with up to his base and at his entrance, it just stopped for no reason, so i clicked for it to go again and it stopped 3 cells later. i then knew that he was s-keying me. i lost the apc there, and built another refinery and a powerplant, and then started a helipad. about halfway into the helipad, and heard "our base is under attack." i figured it was a refinery, so i scrolled up and saw it was instead, a powerplant that i had placed up at the front of my base. i lost the powerplant to 3 tanks and a buggee. but they lost to 5 grenadiers and 6 minigunners.

i then saw 6 bikes running to the lake at the middle where 2 of my harvs were. i lost one harv, my medium tank, my MRLS, and several infantry, as he had 4 buggee reinforcements, as well as a liught tank.

i then built a second helipad then sent them to his cy, along with an ion cannon that i had gotten from a crate. he barely kept his cy, but i lost a chopper, and the other was like one red bar from being destroyed. i sold a helipad, and built a factory.lost 2 refineries to 18 bikes, he lost those bikes to miniginners from selling the refineries (i think i had accidentally did the "cannot surrendur trick" because i was too slow to stop my harv and i didnt want to give him another kill and i needed the money from the sell, and i had forgotten about the trick, hopefully, i wont lose my account :) )

i lost the rest of my forces from slow yet frequent attacks... until i had one refinery, my cy and 2 powerplants. i seld them and then killed what was left in my base, then surrendured, and it wouldnt quit. totally forgetting about the trick, i was all "what the fruck???" and he was saying "come on man! surrender!" so i just left the game and then as i started writing the email, i rememberd about that trick and now im going "damn, hope i dont lose my account over that"

anyways, im accusing Siro1 of S-keying and rushing when rules said no rushing

anyways...
--theAnnoyer

Thanks,
Keith Bennett aka Kane, theAnnoyer

MacMark: I put him up for skeying. Breaking rules is not of interest for me. I count only no-rules-games here.


[23 May 2000]
Cory3456 outsynced DiddyKONG

Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:54:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Kehrer <j_kehrer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Cheater

MacMark,This is DiddyKONG, I just played Cory3456. I'm sorry to inform you but he is a cheater. We play Green Acres, Units 5, tech 7, 9999. I scouted his base and he started s-keying my buggy. So I told him thats enough, and he said sorry and that was the end of that. So we start playing and he decides to do a heli rush, NOD vs NOD. So I built rocket launchers, had a sam, and 5 recons. He actually almost killed my construction site, so I sold it for the money. After about 20 seconds after that , the game went out of sync. No guts to finish the game out. He took the easy way out. CHEATING! Add that bad boy to your list.

Cory3456 was his name, remember it, noone play him!

Thanks,
DiddyKONG


[23 May 2000]
IXxMshxXI outsynced HTTbull

From: Maverickg123@aol.com
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:15:29 EDT
Subject: IXxMshxXI out synced me

hi im HTTbull new name is ENFbull i played IXxMshxXI on his setts tiberium garden tech 7 units 12 and credits 9999 i was killing all of his men then he said you do you think you will win??? and i said yes then he said neither of us will and it came up games are out of sync so i said to not continue boy this game gets worse bad loosers why do they bother playing if they cant accept a loss? Please place this on your blacklisted players page thanks! ENFbull


[23 May 2000]
Nahmm420 dced KIMrobert

From: ILoveKimRoberts@aol.com
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 11:02:14 EDT
Subject: Nahmm420 dced me on his setts

i ma KIMrobert i played him with no rules and he said i was cheating whne i was winning as i engineered his base but what the hell he says no rules then decides there r rules???? he said he was going ot get me banned and all that but nevermind huh l8ers mac!


[20 May 2000]
Evenflow2 insists Tekk15 is dirty

X-Originating-IP: [203.96.111.196]
From: "Evenflow Evenflow" <evenflow222@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: To Tekk15's comments
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 13:28:45 NZST

Flaming war? i think not i dont care about what newbies like him think or say. He is a well known d/cer to people i know and skeyer for that matter theres nothin left to say but that he cant clean up his game. He should join HTT and be a loser there too.


[20 May 2000]
grace88 dced EnFmorph

From: Maverickg123@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:24:25 EDT
Subject: grace88

hi mac i am ENFmorph we started a new clan and i played grace 88 and this is about the 8th time grace has dced me grace dcs every time she loses why has she not got a yellow face by her name yet? but i would like you to add her to your blacklisted players page please when i confronted her she called me a cheat saying i download cheats etc, what a bad loser anyway for my report all i can say is i played graces setts which were tech 7 units 12 credits 9999 tib garden. i built up and cornerd her in her base and killed her harvs then attacked the base then she said cya and dced i tried to get a screen print but it came out all muddled and black i hear i need to download something but what i dont know???? anyway im getting really pissed of with grace dcing everyone i think people should know what to expect from someone so cheap anyway see ya later ENFmorph


[14 May 2000]
Tekk15 cleaning his name

Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:11:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: David McPheeters <tekk15@yahoo.com>
Subject: I'm just clearing my name in the blacklisted players area

Tonight I was in on WWchat in C&C and got into a flaming war with eVeNfLoW2 (it's fun to do with him lol). And he said somthing about me being on your site in the blacklisted players area. So I looked it up and low and behold I was to my surprize.

Now I do remember playing and making the guy mad because of my suicide attacks on his base. I did lose I admit that. But I don't hide stealth seeing as how if he DCed he would have still goten a win (I think). I am surprized I remember some of what went on but it will at least help me clear my name.

During that time I played by using small unit tactics to inflict anoying loses (thats what made him so mad). Thats why I said I pecked at his forces and stuff. I have toned my skills to a different playing style since then to better suit me.

Anyway do you just take people's word on this stuff I ask because how do you get proof?


[07 May 2000]
Acernod versus Crazychek

I got another good example why I leave out all "treaty" reports since some time. Treaties are no official part of the game and they do nothing but giving You trouble: You cannot assure a treaty wouldn't be broken. Think about spider-basing etc.

When I started the blacklisted players' page I first didn't publish any reports. Later I published the reports anonymous. And actually I publish them with full information about the authors'. Feedback from You has shown that's the best way to handle it.

This case Acernod versus Craychek, Acernod asked me about the report justifying his name on the old blacklisted players. I got that report during the "publish the names only" time when I counted "treaty" games too:

    Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 15:41:00 -0800
    From: Craig Ryan <craychek@earthlink.net> Reply-To: craychek@earthlink.net
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    To: macmark@paderborn.netsurf.de
    Subject: Another Dirty player
    Status:

    Acernod should definetly be added to the dirty player's list. I wouldn't be surprised if he reported me since I was the one who d/ced on him. We agreed to an HT, but he ran one of his harvs into my obelisk purposely. He used the destruction of one of his harvs as an excuse to destroy all of mine, and he was prepared for it too!

    Oh, well. Anyways, if you want you can post me too, but definetly post him.

    Now, I was wondering if I could vs. you some time; perhapes tonight?

    Later.

    Craychek

I had some emails with Acernod the recent days and this was the most recent I got from him:

    From: DeucerQ@aol.com
    Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 09:39:20 EDT
    Subject: Re: Excuse me
    To: MacMark@t-online.de
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Status:


    That does help, for starters I refute this report, its a load of bull, 95% of my games I host and are played on tech two or one, credits 9999, tib on, AI off, and unit count zero, and on green acres, you don't get laser towers on those tech levels, and you can ask anyone about the tech levels I play on. This person admits to disconnecting so why I am being put on the dirty player list? And how has this persons disconnecting history been? The people who have been visiting your website and have seen my name, think I am a disconnector and/or a dirty player, which as the report clearly states, the other person is a D/Cer. It makes sense now why girlpwr, says "everyone knows your a disconnector," and a few other high rankers won't play me, and think I am a disconnector.
    Secondly, if this was almost over a year ago and it appears I do not show a trend of doing this, I would appreciate you removing my name from the blacklisted players list(which it appears its been up there for close to a year now, at the top of the list even, and I am sure my nick is probably real soiled now) and not just putting a slash though it, removing it. I also would appreciate it if you would get my side of the story first, and even do a little investigating before you post my name up.
    Thirdly, I don't consider one of my harvesters roaming into someone's base defense and it being destroyed an act of breaking HT, as far as breaking HT, I make it a habit to only kill the offending harvester unless you repeatedly continue in the acts of using them to kill my men or bikes or openly break HT yourself. I don't really recall this incident because of how long ago it was, and because I play so many people who d/c, but I am sure this guy is on one of my numerous pages of disconnetors, I keep my own log. But if you had contacted me when you got this report, I am sure I could have told what the circumstances where for me killing his harvesters.
    Fourthly, If I began killing his harvesters it would have to had been something a lot more then just "one" of mine dying in his base, as for I usually play with a lot of them(depending on how far the game has progressed), MY harvesters stupid actions are not his responsibility. If his base was near a tib feild,(which almost all bases are) or my harvester was on the way to one, then that's were the harvesters are going to go. It would have taken alot more then one of my harvesters roaming into his base and being killed my a base defense, for me to kill his harvesters, I think he neglected to include a little more information.
    Fifthly, If I was "prepared for it too!" then obviously I had a little more forces then him, and harvesters take a few moments to kill so if he wasn't able to respond to save any of them, he didn't have much of anything anyway, so I think he pulled plug because he was losing, and is using this as an excuse to pull.
    In conclusion, if you would like post something, post this: I played a ranked game with AI off against girlpwr(first game of that night), she was number one at the time, my rank was #8, with 800 something points, the highest I ever had it, she had 900 something points the last few days of the tournament, we had agreed to a HT, she broke it, I asked her why she broke it, she appeared to honestly have forgotten it(by the way she is a damn good player, and would have won regardless of HT or not), she then did a very honorable thing, she surrendered, we where about ten to fifteen minutes into the game, in the end result, I didn't get the win nor did I the points for it, the only time I could have actually won a tourney, her points from that would have placed me in the top three, and by algebra number two place for Nod. This was back when they still awarded prizes for the top three players GDI and NOD. Ever since then I will never play her again, because I don't know how it happened. I didn't play for about sixth months after that incident because I felt so cheated by Westwood, and I did the little test you download that examines your system and westwood never responded back to me on the incident aside from their auto response.

    James

I stroke his name out on the old blacklisted players list. I admit that sometimes errors happen. But as soon as I got to know them I fix them. Nevertheless this section is read often and very important to hunt down the bad guys.


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