news of October 2000

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Mail it to MacMark@t-online.de and let's all read it here!
[29 October 2000]
Additional maps on WChat

Some days ago I joined a game set up on the map Green Acres. To my biggest surprise it wasn't Green Acres when we played. It was "Village Of The Unfortunate", a multi player map that comes with the Covert Operations CD for the DOS version of CnC.

How comes we could play this map? On local area networks (or on Kali) there's no problem to play every map You want on a Mac or PC in multi player matches. Only restriction is the WChat application itself: It shows in the Mac version only the 16 standard multi player maps as it does on CnC DOS or CnCgold for the PeeCees. The Covert Operations Missions CD adds some more multi player maps to the PeeCee version of WChat. I had installed the maps of the Covert Operations CD on my Mac too some time ago and so my CnC found that map on the my CnC folder. That's it. My WChat displayed "Green Acres" because it has no more entries in it's menu. The same would happen to PeeCee users who don't own a copy of that mission disc.

If Westwood would ever do that little patch to MacC&C's WChat, I could select the Cover Operations maps when setting up a game myself. And more they could sell this mission disc for the Mac version too by patching it only a very little bit. I managed to play all these additional missions on my Mac and I installed all additional maps too. All You need is to put them into You CnC folder ;-)

Related links and further indeep informations:


[25 October 2000]
One more good guy

Today I got an email from an ex-cheater who switched sides and plays now for us, the good guys:

    Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:32:55 +0200 (MET DST) To: <MacMark@t-online.de>
    Reply-To: <storm18@dolfijn.nl>
    Subject: Re: cnc
    From: storm18@dolfijn.nl (stefan wiedeman) MIME-Version: 1.0

    hey macmark,

    this is HTTwars.


    i just wanted to write something about cheating.Cause they fucked up my rank again. i dunno who's got my rank fucked but if he reads this i hope he will not ever do it again. cheating: what's cheating? i hear about cheating every day and no one does anything about it. and the poeple who cheat love it. but they never think about the other players. take me for example. i started playing cnc with the nick Akansloos and lost a lot of games that month and i also dced and early resigned but then i started to get an high rank and there where people who dced me too. i didn't like it so i quited cheating. but some of the people on WW don't care about other players cause they want to win the tourney no matter what. i ask them is winning the tourney really so important? i would like to win the touney too but not with cheating cause i think when you cheat you are the greatest loser ever. and i think a lot of people agree to that. i would ask all the people who play WW and wants to win the tourney please play fair. not just for the other people on WW but also for yourself, cause when you win the tourney without cheating you are one of the best players on WW and that's how it should be.

    when i was HTTshadow and HTTwars i cheated too but tygr and jer. got us back by stealing bull's pass. i would like to thank tygr and jer. for waking me up. i realised that cheating is cheap. and i started to play fair. but now they used my nick again. after 5 months they fucked up my rank cause i was ranked 7 and they needed the wins so they can reach the top. why???? what did i do to you??? i just wanted to prove WW that i could be in top without cheating. and sergey and evenflow2 helped me do that. i trained with them on GA and i got better so i could win the tourney with fair play. srgiy and even. i wanted to thank you for helping me(surv1v0r) to be a top player. and the people who got the pass of HTTwars i just wanted to say to them: be a man or woman and win the touney without cheating and stop fucking with me. i also gonna write this mail to WW and to the AKA page and i hope to make a differens.

    thank you for reading this and mac i hope you are going to put this on your page.

    greatings HTTwars aka Surv1v0r.

I like to hear that :-)


[15 October 2000]
Scout cheat explained

I asked McCreadie about the so called "scout cheat" which is unknown to me. He explains:

    I saw that someone might have been using this in the tournament. Let me explain what it is (I did this to ww a few months back). People (mostly heli rushers but really anyone) gives their units a sight of 10 which gives them an advantage when scouting. This does not make an out of sync error because it is not something that has to be the same as the other persons c&c95.exe (eg units credits ect). It is a really annoying cheat and I dont blame Master for early resigning (not a cheat it is legal in ladder play). I hope this helps you understand a bit more (I think he gave his chinook a sight of 10 and it was able to go in the shroud). I think ww can detect this on the ladder. Thanks

    D

I think such a cheat would make the game going out of sync. Usually any editing of the game files causes sync errors. Does anybody have more informations on this "scout cheat"?


[15 October 2000]
The running loser problem

When Westwood had started the ladder system there's been no 3-minutes-rule. This rule says, that every game lasting less than 3 minutes won't count regardless what happenes.

Then some players begun to get and give free wins. They set up a bogues game and one of them surrenders. Usually this happened right after the game started. The 3-minutes-rule counters this because they would have to waste now 3 minutes of their time for every free win.

In the last few months computers became faster and Internet connections have been improved too. Now, if 2 players with fast connections meet, they can conquer the other player easily under 3 minutes. Their computers and their connections to the Internet are so fast they can do it in that little time. A new kind of cheaters use the 3-minutes-rule to their advantage. If they face a certain loss, they resign under 3 minutes. What should I say? I always said medium speed games rule! (The speed You get on a local network if You put the speed slider into the middle.)

A few days ago I discussed the problem with Mary on WChat when she was online again. She said Westwood introduced the 3-minutes-rule because they want more tactical games. I disagree with that. I think a heli rush is very tactical. I think an early Chinook loaded with an Engineer is very much of a tactic. But let me mention this again: Both the heli rush and the Chinook rush cannot be done with my 33.3 modem connection under 3 minutes. So this is a problem of You speed freaks out there again.

Mary also said they introduced this 3-minutes-rule to protect modem players versus faster connected players. Sorry, Mary, but this is completely without any sense! C&C synchronizes the 2 computers. This means, every player with a fast connection and a state of the art computer has no advantage over me with my 33.3 modem and my older than 5 years Macintosh. The game runs on his computer as fast as on mine. In fact some players hate me for my slow connection. I like it for more unit control and more tactics. But I found only really good players understand what I mean with that. Mary maybe doesn't know it all, because that rule was introduced way before she worked as our ladder mistress.

My suggestion is that Westwood changes it into a 1-minute-rule. The problem of early resigning when facing a certain loss would be removed but such a change. If You read my reports page You will see that the running loser problem increased recently.


[11 October 2000]
Registered users for the forum

Some guys on my forum experienced that other guys pretend to be them. As a solution for this problem You can now secure Your identity on this forum by password.

If You want to be a registered user You should mail me the following:

  • The name You want to see as author's name for Your postings.
  • The password You want to use for Your postings. Don't make it too easy for the bad guys to guess it!
  • Optional a color for Your name. Preferable in HTML-hex-code, if You know it.

You don't need to type in Your name if You want to post something on the forum, if You're a registered user. Typing in Your password is sufficient. If You type in any name that name will show up beside Your registered name.

Your registered name will show up in color on the forum, if You typed in the correct password. A faked posting abusing Your name won't have color.

Guests are still allowed on the forum. They can use any name.


[11 October 2000]
Westwood offers prizes for our tourney

Some days ago Westwood offered support for our tourney. I told them

    I published all infos about that tourney on my page now. The last players will be named until late Sunday. It's all in the "news" section. If You like to give prizes to the best 3 at the end, I think they will appreciate that ;-)

Today I got their answer:

    From: Contests <Contests@westwood.com>
    To: "'MacMark@t-online.de'" <MacMark@t-online.de> Subject: RE: Your Tournament
    Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:24:25 -0700
    MIME-Version: 1.0

    How is the tournament going? We offer the following prizes, as you see fit to give them out:

    1 Copy Red Alert 2
    2 Red Alert 2 posters
    2 Tiberian Sun sound track CDs
    2 Command & Conquer mousepads.

    When you have chosen your winners, please forward the names, mailing addresses (including country and postal code), telephone number, and the prize they won. They will be shipped post-haste. Good luck!

    -Sam
    Westwood Studios
    Customer Support

Thank You, Westwood! That's very nice :)

When we've finished our tourney in the end of October 2000 I will anncounce the winners and who will get which prize. The winners will have to mail me their names, mailing addresses (including country and postal code) and telephone number so I can forward the winners to Westwood. Good luck to You!


[04 October 2000]
Latest Westwood rules

If You mail to Contests@westwood.com You receive an auto reply telling You the rules and that Your mail is put into a database. Furthermore they're hungry for Your reports and hope to get 2 or 3 times as much reports as they get currently. Their goal is to get all the cheaters. Every mail is read personally but not every mail will be replied.

    From: Contests <Contests@westwood.com>
    To: MacMark@t-online.de
    Subject: WOL Account Status
    Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 01:35:38 -0700
    MIME-Version: 1.0

    Thank you for your mail to us regarding illegal play on the Westwood Tournament System. We take cheating on our tournament system very seriously, and our hope is that we can double or triple the reports from our users in the near future so that no one goes unpunished.

    Your mail will be automatically entered into our database of complaints, and we will cross reference your data against other mail that has been sent. We are now checking this database and reading each piece of email personally every day. In this way, we have already removed dozens of players who were caught cheating (usually those players at the top of the rankings).

    Again, I thank you for your letter. While we do not respond to each individual piece of email personally, we will read this and take action if necessary, usually within 24 hours. You do not need to send an additional piece of email, as duplicate mail is automatically removed from our system before it is integrated into our database.

    -Westwood Tournament Coordination Staff.


    Disconnects work the following way:

    1) If you or your opponent disconnects within the first 3 minutes of the game, no score will be recorded, and no disconnects will be awarded.

    2) If someone disconnects after three minutes (either by pulling the plug or using abort/resign), he loses. Period. The person still in the game should wait until the reconnect timer runs out, then you can exit the game normally. The remaining player will be awarded the win, and the other will get a loss and a disconnect.

    3) If both players disconnect due to an Internet problem, both players will receive a disconnect. In this case, you will either not receive any score (if the disconnect caused the score information to be lost in the server), or the win will be awarded to the person who was winning by 30% or more.

    Westwood does change any ranks, wins, disconnects, etc. on the ladder page without review of all complaints. All scores entered by the ladder server are final. In instances where you think the person was cheating, we will review the case, but this will only happen in official Westwood events (such as contests for prizes).

    Harvester treaties, timed treaties, and other agreements made between players are NOT part of the official rules. If you use them, you do so at your own risk.


[01 October 2000] updated until tourney is over
Tourney 2000 section

Until today I found that the following players want to join the tourney. I made the pairs for the first round by random choice. If someone wants to use a different nick instead of the one listed here, that's ok.

Westwood is giving some more prizes. I have to determine how they will be awarded. The available prizes - many thanks to Westwood - are:

  • 1 Copy Red Alert 2
  • 2 Red Alert 2 posters
  • 2 Tiberian Sun sound track CDs
  • 2 Command & Conquer mousepads.

Some of theses players already get a free copy of RA2 from Westwood as they told me. I thought again about awarding the available prizes and looked at the attempts of some players to cheat in this tourney. I'm tending to give that CD to the most fair player in this tourney or something like that.

Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6
01 thetechy ./. BLacKAsp1
(1:2)
BLacKAsp1
./.
XTheManX
(0:2)
XTheManX
./.
Sundown46
(2:1)
XTheManX
./.
blak
no match ?
./.
?
02 BowserMan ./. XTheManX
03 Sundown46 ./. CnCnew
Sundown46
./.
donKEEdic
(2:0)
04 aranand ./. donKEEdic
(0:2)
05 MonsterID ./.
austin469
(1:2)
austin469
./.
uNc23
(2:0)
austin469
./.
blak
(0:2)
06 TONKAJOE ./.
uNc23
(0:3)
07 PENNSYCO
./.
blak
(0:2)
blak
./.
burn15
(2:1)
08 burn15
./.
croz
09 LordSSB
./.
Beasty
LordSSB
./.
McCreadie
McCreadie
./.
DMXdaDawg
(2:0)
McCreadie
./.
AcerNod
(2:1)
McCreadie
./.
illspits
10 McCreadie ./. Sigabubba
(1:0, gave up)
11 thezigzag ./. DMXdaDawg (0:3) DMXdaDawg
./.
pika
12 oRciOnm ./.
pika
(1:2)
13 Totoe ./.
Hel10
(0:2)
Hel10
./.
HHHXXX
(2:1)
Hel10
./.
AcerNod
14 Adrocktt ./. HHHXXX
15 AcerNod ./. AeroElite
AcerNod
./.
?
16 swarcoff ./.
JAsmc2
(?:?)
17 wrwcomet ./.
kanishka
(0:2)
kanishka
./.
illspits
illspits
./.
Kan3
illspits

no match

18 isscv ./.
illspits
(0:3)
19 SiNNerOG ./. Madmanog
(3:0)
SiNNerOG
./.
Kan3
20 Kan3 ./.
ICDesigns

Stroke out names didn't play or didn't meet their opponent and are removed from the tourney.

The dead line for more players joining is Sunday, 08 October 2000. You need to email me to be listed in the tourney. Everyone is allowed to join. The current pairs won't be changed. If necessary additional pairs are added. Start for the tourney is Monday, 09 October 2000, but all pairs can start earlier if they like.

The dead lines for the rounds are:

  • 1: Friday, 13 October 2000.
  • 2: Monday, 16 October 2000.
  • 3: Thursday, 19 October 2000.
  • 4: Sunday, 22 October 2000.
  • 5: Wednesday, 25 October 2000.
  • 6: Saturday, 28 October 2000.

If Your opponent didn't answer You and doesn't show up in time to do Your games, then mail me. You will move on. He will lose.

The settings for the first matches are made by the players at left. The settings for the second matches are made by the players at right. The neutral settings for the third matches are:

  • Map "Eye Of The Storm" (no special tactics for his map are published until now and it has a bit of everything plus noone gets a starting point which forces him to move his Mobile Construction Vehicle)
  • $6332 starting credits (this will render most known tactics useless, because they assume $9999 usually)
  • 4 starting units (You get enough to scout the enemy early and no special units like an APC)
  • Technology level 7 (full arsenal of weapons)
  • Artifical Intelligence Off (no luck)
  • Crates Off (no luck)
  • Bases On (full tactics)
  • Tiberium On (long games possible)

The winner of each pair emails the results to MacMark@t-online.de.

The second round will be

  • winner of 1st pair ./. winner of 2nd pair
  • winner of 3rd pair ./. winner of 4th pair
  • and so on

I will publish the 2nd round pairs when I get the results of the 1st round.

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